Could you imagine Men’s Responsibilities Activists
I think traditionalists are Men’s Responsibilities Activists. Also many feminists.
http://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2013/05/18/the-the-most-balanced-gender-studies-textbook-available/
Cathy Young has some concerns with a popular gender studies textbook:
A few months ago, a post with a shocking claim about misogyny in America began to circulate on Tumblr, the social media site popular with older teens and young adults. It featured a scanned book page section stating that, according to “recent survey data,” when junior high school students in the Midwest were asked what they would do if they woke up “transformed into the opposite sex,” the girls showed mixed emotions but the boys’ reaction was straightforward: “‘Kill myself’ was the most common answer when they contemplated the possibility of life as a girl.” The original poster — whose comment was, “Wow” —identified the source as her “Sex & Gender college textbook,” The Gendered Society by Michael Kimmel.
The post quickly caught on with Tumblr’s radical feminist contingent: in less than three months, it was reblogged or “liked” by over 33,000 users. Some appended their own comments, such as, “Yeah, tell me again how misogyny ‘isn’t real‘ and men and boys and actually ‘like,’ ‘love‘ and ‘respect the female sex‘? This is how deep misogynistic propaganda runs… As Germaine Greer said, ‘Women have no idea how much men hate them.’”
Yet, as it turns out, the claim reveals less about men and misogyny than it does about gender studies and academic feminism.
I was sufficiently intrigued to check out Kimmel’s reference: a 1984 book called The Longest War: Sex Differences in Perspective by psychologists Carol Tavris and Carole Wade. The publication date was the first tipoff that the study’s description in the excerpt was not entirely accurate: the “recent” data had to be about thirty years old. Still, did American teenage boys in the early 1980s really hold such a dismal view of being female?
When I obtained a copy of The Longest War, I was shocked to discover that the claim was not even out of context: it seemed to have no basis at all, other than one comment among examples of negative reactions from younger boys (the survey included third- through twelfth-grade students, not just those in junior high). Published in 1983 by the Institute for Equality in Education, the study had some real fodder for feminist arguments: girls generally felt they would be better off as males while boys generally saw the switch as a disadvantage, envisioning more social restrictions and fewer career options (many responses seemed based on stereotypes — e.g., husband-hunting as a girl’s main training for adulthood — than 1980s reality). But that’s not nearly as dramatic as “I’d rather kill myself than be a girl.”
mras complain that feminists have limited arguments and buzzwords but they continue to spew the same disproved bullshit over and over again
they’re like a wild animal that sees its own reflection in a window and runs into it
I’m guessing that when you say “disproved bullshit,” you mean a handful of feminist arguments which we’ve addressed. For example, appeals to the Patriarchy, or “that’s really an example of misogyny,” or the “power fantasy” thing.
Feminists have limited arguments because their core beliefs can’t stand up to criticism.
The best part of the misandry tag is when feminists complain about their man-hating safe space being ruined.
Men can be repressed, but not all repression is of an oppressive nature. Demands for “men’s rights” are invalidated by the fact that men, as a class, are not oppressed to begin with. Men are merely repressed by the very system that privileges them.
Men calling for “men’s rights” ought instead to demand an end to patriarchy — the actual source of their repression. They need to be fully committed to pro-feminist, anti-patriarchal struggle.
I don’t think you actually said anything here, just a string of feminist buzzwords which are meaningless without defining your terms.
What is “oppression” and how could you qualify for it?
I have a tendency to lump several different groups of people (“pickup artists”; “men going their own way,” etc.) under the heading “MRAs.” Some of these men seem to take exception with this, either genuinely (they don’t want to be considered with the human scum that is MRA - which I understand) or as one of their pathetic argument strategies (“your points are invalid because I’m not an MRA.”)
I will admit that it might be inaccurate to lump all of these guys together, but it’s certainly convenient. Because when I say “MRAs” I mean ignorant, hateful, misogynistic, anti-feminist fuckwads, and those terms pretty well describe all those guys, regardless of their label. I have neither the time nor the inclination to delve deep into all the paranoid little corners of the internet where these trolls fester, to learn all the little minutiae that distinguishes one group from the others. I don’t care enough about these guys to bother not offending them. I don’t care if you don’t consider yourself an “MRA” - I’m going to keep calling you all that anyway. Why? Because fuck you, that’s why.
A moment of honesty from a tumblr feminist.
here’s a tip
if you find yourself clicking the reblog button to debate, deny, belittle, “counter offer” or disagree with a post concerning the struggles and opinions of:
- people of color
- people with disabilities and mental illness
- trans and genderqueer people
- anybody talking about their struggles that does not ask for your white, able-bodied, cis feelings…
JUST DON’T.
I was told to “Just do it” by a shoe company, I trump you
Tumblr user literally says that they don’t want to hear disagreement. lol.
sosungalittleclodofclay
Explain what rights men have that women don’t. Right Now. Not rights they didn’t have 50 years ago, What rights women don’t have right fucking now.Here’s what I got so far, right off the top of my head, strictly speaking (meaning I can’t mention the right to a safe and easily accessible abortion because men don’t have abortions), and with knowledge that women’s rights are not my direct topic of research:
- Right not to have to make less than someone else for the exact same job because you are a different gender
The wage gap is a myth, as it is caused by women’s choices and other factors. In fact, women sometimes make more than men for the same job.
- Right to feel you can go outside without fear of being sexually assaulted
This doesn’t have anything to do with legal rights?
Men become afraid of going out as well. They have higher chances of being assaulted, after all.
- Right to easy access to contraceptives for one’s own respective gender
Men don’t have access to a birth control pill, even though they’ve been developed.
- Right for decent and equal representation among those who control the government of your respective country
A politician doesn’t have to be the same gender as you to represent you. Obama is a feminist who fights for feminist causes and celebrated more women than men graduating from college.
- Right to have your accomplishments accredited to your efforts and not your gender
This also is not a legal right and I’m not sure what you’re talking about. People attribute an individual’s accomplishments to a variety of sources, such as God for example, which atheists like to complain about. And complaining about it always seems pretty egotistical.
